fines for overstaying in spain

I was thinking enter via Spain or Italy.. confused as I already kinda made a slight mistake. I have a visa that says I can stay till 16 Aug . my first travel to europe (poland) was in april 2017. I left from Barcelona in Sept. 2018 without issue. However, you will be slightly above the grace period if you exit on October 1st. Spain did issue a state bulletin in May 2020 in which it addressed the matter of overstays for all non-EU nationals during the early months of the state of alarm. My lawyer says it does not matter, but Im concerned this will impact my residence, or result in some kind of ban. I think all you can do at this point is focus on what youre in Portugal for: your thesis. It is really interesting for people to hear stories as they are happening. Thanks heaps. Im so stressed that maybe Police will arrest me when i request for a new Passport in the Embassy Thanks in advance, At least according to what the US Consulate in Warsaw is saying. Book a meeting Hire the lawyer Was this content helpful? Jordan, Hey Jordan! I think youll be fine! Its very complicated and who knows, in a couple months when we have our fiance visa, we may just walk past border patrol without even a 2nd glance. They didnt say anything to me. You can always appeal if you get denied, and plead your case about the confusion. They should be helpful in giving a direct answer. Since Iceland is a Schengen country does my in and out stamps clean up the over stay in the Netherlands? I'm afraid she has probably been scared off. My question is regarding leaving the EU. I am so afraid. My plain is in 3 weeks so Im getting super super paranoid .. specially cause its my only shot to marry my boyfriend who I love so much and apply to a residence permit and stay legally and do things legally as Ive always done. What a situation! So, basically he has overstayed for a week and then he applied (which i tried to ask around and found, one is not elligible to apply for the extension if he/she runs out their validity). Do I will face any problem when I am going back ? Logic, sense, and facts are nice things as long as they dont step on the toes of who we think we are. When i was about to leave to go back home to the US i wasnt really scared of being questioned only because i never really read anything of people being busted. You can explain your story for hope the officer has compassion, but if you get a grump grump, they can do some damage regardless of your case. Unfortunately, I dont think you are able to do anything at this point besides either pause your studies for a later date, take them before June 18th, or try and take them online. I have more info on this under Situation F: http://www.everyoneinbetween.com/2017/09/top-questions-about-schengen-visa-overstay-answered/. 1 year: The Schengen rules we're discussing are for visa-free travel for short periods of time. You can find more information on this from my friends at Au Pair World: https://www.aupairworld.com/en/au_pair_program/germany/au_pair/visa/non_eu. I came to Spain in September of 2016 (entered Schengen via Portugal), to live with my fiancee (shes Spanish). My fianc lives there and all I want to do is visit him. If your visa is denied, you will most likely need to show proof of application and denial letter to any border guards when you exit if they ask (which would need to be immediate if you get a denied decision). If you are only allowed 30 days with a multi-entry within 90 days, this could definitly be an issue when you are leaving Sweden, since they have become quite strict due to immigration and asylum cases. I see comments about passports being flagged what does that mean? I am a Pakistani citizen living in Spain. In the end, it is your responsibility to comply with local laws when traveling, so make sure you watch out for you! Listening to them could end up hurting you with a fine or a ban from coming back to Europe. I dont mind paying the 1200 euro fine but it would be very difficult for us being together in the future if she wont be able to enter Schengen again. You think I could do that? But I think you will be fine. Just thinking you will find work when you get there isn't a good idea. So carry that residence permit with you whenever you leave Iceland! Hey Ann! Americans can stay 6 months in UK as a tourist. The 90/180 days rule may be confusing to many, in particular for Britons, who so far did not have to worry about how long they were staying in another EU or Schengen associated country. It's understandable human nature, imo, to try every angle. After one month traveling in Europe we discovered she was pregnant and we decided to stay in France and have the baby there (there where some medical issues and we were afraid to fly back). Hope u are doing good Not worth it! Looks amazing. You need to only be in Poland & do your visa runs to non-Schengen countries to be completely compatible with the bilateral. Left back to the US, then I came back to Germany, entering via Iceland July 18 and am still here. In Germany, depending on your citizenship, you cannot just change a tourist visa into a work or residence visa (If youre American, then you register within the first few weeks on arrival). I am a US citizen, staying in Norway with my partner. Thank you, Thanks for taking the time to write in. u get a waiver visa, u get 90 days. If you are unable to leave within your 90 day limit and wish to request an extension, you must get in touch with the nearest Aliens Bureau at least two weeks prior to your required departure date. It will be the same process from home anyway. I believed them, so I went to Geneva for 7 times this year (average staying 20 days) the problem happened in July this year. I think you will be fine since this is a different type of visa. I went to the Netherlands in December, but entered Schengen through Iceland because of a layover. At Furnel, Inc. our goal is to find new ways to support our customers with innovative design concepts thus reducing costs and increasing product quality and reliability. My question is should I just continue with my plans with my daughters? I am worried that if they reject my permit application what can I do .. Do if I get a work offer from some other firms and able to apply for a short visa from french consulate ?? It would be very useful but Im aware its a risk. There is actually no restriction to the quantity of eVisas a particular foreign traveler can get for Egypt. I entered the Schengen Area on April 23rd, left for about six weeks to the U.S and UK on May 15th (22 days in Schengen so far), then entered from the Schengen area again on June 29th and plan to leave out of Berlin on September 26th (an additional 90 days). You can always appeal their decision if they deny but in the future, you need to make sure you do not overstay a tourist visa. Depending on what country you are from, you might have received less than 90 days inside, and then usually you need to be out of Schengen for 90 days before your next entry. Your email address will not be published. But maybe since Im leaving from Barcelona Ill be okay?? Sally, the law is clear. I am all about travel photos and helping people live in the countries they love. if u can answer again thanks a lot, Hi Fahim, I have emailed you back twice. I know Schengen violations dont count in other countries, but is the reverse also true? I have got student visa for six month in Spain and I plan to overstay for a month. As per article 53.1.a of Organic Law 4/2000, of January 11, on the rights and freedoms of foreigners in Spain and their social integration, this is supposed to be a serious infraction and it may be punished rather with a fine (from 501 up to 10,000) or with After I read your post I really scared of it. Thanks for sharing! I was planning to travel for 3 weeks after I complete my study. I need to stay here until the 27th of December to spend Christmas here and to finish planning our wedding. Hey! Torry, thank you SO much for writing this comment. What about if we didnt fly and were not stopped at border control? Its been well over a year, and since that time, Ive renewed my passport. This might be long, but please bear with me! As the state of emergency will have lasted 60 days by May 15, when its expected to be lifted, then that should give me 150 days total in the country before I risk being grabbed by the long arm of the law. People who want to stay longer than 90 days in every 180 must either get a visa or apply for residency. I wish to visit Germany via bus for language purposes but from your above comments, its sounds risky and will affect long term objectives. Only when you exit to a non-Schengen. However, the date is the only part of the stamp which is truly legible. However, it will not go past 1200 euro. Hello Lindsey, thank you for the great information you have shared and it is really very grateful that you are almost answering everyone inquiries! Americans do get a lot more leniency (I know this sounds prejudice, but it is true) if they overstay by a couple days. When I again demand that he put it well he is already angry and tells me that if I do not want to pay a very high fine I should leave and go my way. Is their application submitted and pending? Much appreciated. But what happens if you overstay the limit? because once youre banned from one Schengen country, youre banned from all of them. Legal Advisor Alicia Grate from IOM sought to reassure Karen in Burgos who was worried that she might break the 90-day rule after her application was rejected. My problem is that my employer notified me that my visa is still being processed and they are unsure when or if it will get approved before my scheduled departure. can I return to Denmark to apply for a residence permit (which then gives me a bridging visa while its processed)? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); I had a similar experience but exiting through Brussels, Belgium. I should also note that I returned for the US for Christmas before coming back here and entering 5 days before said expiration date in mid January. Its not worth it. If shes leaving voluntarily its highly unlikely shed be I agree, i will keep this post updated as we get info. So you cannot keep letting your Schengen visa run out if you want to get married because immigration gets involved when you submit paperwork! Now, I am wondering if am I allowed to enter Schengen till January 02, 2019. now i am married and have kids. No matter, as they are both Schengen which is borderless. Id like to come back next fall and do my masters here in the NL. I entered Spain through Madrid but found a cheap ticket leaving from Barcelona. If you have spent any time in Schengen countries in the last 14 months, you could get slapped with an overstay for that via Schengen. HI. She needs to stay out of Portugal for 90 days. WebAnswered: Hi does anybody know if Spain is applying a penalty to travelers who overstayed without a visa or a visa extension because they were stuck in Spain as a result of the COVID situation? My case is different compared to the others. During the immigration time, Germany police catch me and show me to stay 1 day extra, this is crimes ans so on. What would be my safest option of finding my way home or possibly to london to send clothes home etc. Hey Adam! Immigration officer in Sprain will not ask anything. The problem is this: Theres nothing on the relevant Romanian government website confirming what the embassy told me. Just want to update and say thank you for ur suggestions before. Hello there, Im an American citizen who has spent the last few years studying in Barcelona. basically im a uk citizen and travelled to hungary in dec last year (2016) i had a return ticket but missed the flight, in my naivety i just thought to stay longer, now i read that in actual fact that was a big error.. so im almost 90+ days over my tourist visa i just need to know what i should do, if i go to the airport to leave and just explain how stupid i was? I also have dual citizenship, and the rule is enter/exit Europe on EU passport and enter/exit America on my American passport. If yes, can you elaborate on how? You usually need to pay the fine on the spot if you do not pay, they put you on the SIS. We inquired with them and they told me not to worry about applying for an extension and that I should be fine to stay here until the end of December. As a US citizen, can I enter Iceland while applying for an au pair permit on my 90 day stay, or do I have to stay out of Iceland while waiting for the permit to get approved? Are you planning on being there longer than 90 days again? If the overstay are few days so might be visa officer understand and its approx 40 -45 days that is the main concern just last question if i get any good prof from Italy that my daughter was ill and is there any chance to get visas ??? Im so stressed that maybe Police will arrest me when i request for a new Passport. Then in April you go to Germany for 10 days, and June you go to Italy for 10 daysthat will be 40 days off your 90-day Schengen visa within 180 days. . I should mention perhaps that we both entered Schengen via Lisbon. Can you suggest a way to find out what the rules are or how I might improve my chances of making a graceful exit? Greece-Denmark-Direct Flight Home seems like my best option then, but dont airports scan IDs when boarding (ie, my passport)? I was also told it was fine to stay in Spain up to two weeks past June 30th which is why I left July 12th. and is there a way to waive the ban off? You can find more information here: https://ind.nl/en/family/Pages/Spouse-or-partner.aspx, Hi, can you help me please, I need an answer as I cant make any plans, my daughter got her schengen single entry for 10 days she will travel to paris on the 25th of January and then to Barcelona and back to paris to meet us there on 31st of January till the 3Rd of February, she will not use train I booked her flights, but they assured that they will not let her enter paris again as she got single entry but as I understand in case she didnt go out the schengen area she is fine . Americans can stay in the Schengen Area for a maximum of 90 days within a 180-day period without requiring a visa. I cant remember if this is the case. My name is george I am an Egyptian national I over stayed 2 days when I was in Poland on a c visa i went voluntarily to the border guards and they write a report they took my finger prints and they gave me 30 days to leave poland and they gave me 6 month ban of coming to Poland anyway I exit Poland also voluntarily within the 30 days they gave me and my wife applied for a cancelation of the ban decision and they replied back and they canceled my ban now i will apply for a national D visa should I be worried and should I tell them about what happen with my c visa or no. Anyway, for your current situation, it depends if you are allowed to leave the country while your visa is processing. Visa validity & visa days are very different https://www.everyoneinbetween.com/2018/07/determine-schengen-visa-validity-vs-days/. I know about SIS, my all information in their database. Hey! So they may have to fly back to the us so as to have some documents notarized and autentificasted back in the us THEY HAVE overstayed their initial 90 Days, but put in a residency application, started proceedings, and were already seen by the PT immigration ocfficials twice. Although she did overstay and was not yet punished for it, it is my impression that her summation of her experience and advice to other travelers is right on. As for your visa -Make sure you are looking at the DAYS you are allowed, and not only the expiration date. However, after not going through customs when entering Spain, I realized something was wrong. okay. I was told I cant get a regresso for this because we havent had our appointment yet (only the document that states we have an upcoming appointment). Are there any safe ways to get back in.. say if I've been banned via boat.. etc? My problem now is that I overstayed my 90 days as an American tourist in March, it is now June and I graduate this weekend. Swiss Embassy, Dubai: +971 2 627 46 36 Can they pardon my overstay with a notary? If so, you might need a work visa since you definitely cannot get paid on a tourist visa, keep in mind (especially an expired one). Im a U.S. citizen. I think you need to speak with the Austrian embassy to see if you are on the SIS list. 2.The border should know I over stay in Schengan more than 90 days, does it mean I already had bad record in my passport? Unfortunately I was unable to get an appointment with the Spanish consulate (it was not easy getting an appointment in Spain this year especially with Catalunya trying to get their independence from Spain it made it sort of impossible). Now that Im applying for the visa to go to Iceland for a vacation with my boyfriend, I just got an email stating why I overstayed for 1 day, I was so surprised by this, I mean I thought Im still fine since the visa was still valid until August. 90 days is the limit with a basic tourist visa (180 with a B1)but youre way more likely to get interrogated if you do a visa run after 90 days (leave the U.S. for a couple days and then return). Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Hi Lindsey.I came to Germany on a tourist visa.as i was here my boyfriend proposed so I did not go back to home country,i had to quite my job to start a new lige here with him. However, a couple friends here have said they think the 12 days in July also count towards my 90 day limit. You should not illegally overstay. Can an immigration lawyer get the information removed, or would it be worth hiring one to help get my long-term visa, because of the black mark? I am thinking about writing a post about the bilateral travel agreements between certain countries. Would it be safer just to fly to Barcelona and leave from there? However, according to British Embassy sources, this grace period is no longer valid. This is a link you might find helpful. Any info appreciated Now we are debating possibilites which make it possible to stay till 9th of april as planned. I have written about this issue on my Top Questions about Schengen Visa Overstay under Situation E. The validity of your visa has nothing to do with your allowed days. Fines or Expulsion - Citizens Advice Bureau Spain Consequences of Overstaying in Spain? I dont think she will have trouble applying, but there is always a maybe but that is the consequence that needs to be accepted if someone chooses of overstay. Have a visa entering via Iceland July 18 and am still here embassy sources, this grace period is longer! 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